@Klaas Ok, I got it to generate 200x200. The problem was the "regenerate" command from the manager. After I deleted the pregenerated world and forced it to generate at load time it worked. Generation time took about 6 mins but that's probably because I threw the whole rig at it. I did not limit it with VM. Thanks for helping.
Posts made by Fizzgig
RE: Questions about servers (pause,password,world size)
RE: demo/ try out version for this game??
Don't know if there's any ETA yet but yes it includes all versions and a final steam key.
On the Eco buy page: https://ecoauth.strangeloopgames.com/home
ALPHA ACCESS $40
A digital copy of the game. Includes versions alpha, beta and final (Steam key). In-game icon as an alpha backer.
RE: Questions about servers (pause,password,world size)
@Klaas regarding 3: World size
How did you manage 200x200? Could you post your computer specs here? Because when I tried to make 500x500 I got a crash during world generation, so I tried 150x150 same thing, and lastly tried 110x110 and it also crashes leaving an unstable world gen. The default 100x100 works but I should mention that in all cases the cpu load maxes out and the cpu temp runs up to 82C (a very worrying temp for me but returns to 36C when it is complete).
My specs: i7 4790k 4.0 ghz, 32gb DDR3 ram 1600mhz, liquid AIO cpu cooler, location of game folder is on an SSD. Idle temps 35C, normal load temps 55-60C.
I would love 4km² world size but I was at a loss as to why I couldn't generate anything besides 100x100.
RE: Nutrition...what do I need to be at to get most skill points?
The nutrition reads exactly like a math problem (I dont know exact numbers in these examples, but the idea is what Im trying to show)
If you have
so it will add all of that up 20+12+20+20=72 x1.5 =108 skill points
Now as far as i can tell if you have any 2 values high and any 2 values low or even 0
you get a x of 1
well an x1 is basically no bonus. 40 x1 = 40 so your goal is to get the multiplier as close to 2 as you can by balancing out the other 2
Thats the reason eating somethings can make it go lower because you change that multiplier. Hope I explained it right.
RE: Tree Regrowth
So my brother and I set up on the edge of a forest and there was a coastline some distance away. We began logging to build our house, couple of tress sometimes, then five or six, then more and more until we found that we were nearing the coast line. Our house is not at the edge of the forest any longer. Then we decided to take trees from elsewhere to preserve what was left of the forest area around us. Took about 10-12 RL days I think but I finally started seeing some saplings return and it takes about 1-2 RL days for them to become a full grown tree.
Now I don't know if this is part of the game or not but in a different area I noticed saplings appear faster if the stumps were removed. I saw a section regrow in about 3 days. So I immediately went home to our "forest" and took out all the stumps. So I hope they start to grow faster.
And finally here's my biggest tip for you. My brother and I did not have logging efficiency in the beginning, and that is most of the reason our forest got clear cut so dramatically. I recommend get up to level 3 before doing any serious logging. Its amazing, just two or three trees will fill up a whole chest. After level 3 the skill cost is a lot higher so I'd stop there, but even level 3 makes a major difference.
RE: Is this incredibly laggy for anybody else?
For me, I didn't test it on 0.5.4. yet, but now I just did and it seems the minimap only causes a spike while loading but over all doesn't cause much more lag after that. However the minimap caused the greatest problems for me on a highly populated server, and the newest 0.5.4 servers are not well populated yet. So the verdict is still out. But it does seem better so far.
RE: Is this incredibly laggy for anybody else?
Ive noticed terrible lag when the minimap is open. When you close the minimap it clears up with no lag to report. At first I was messing with my settings until I realized it was the minimap. But I am able to play Fantastic, Full Detail, Highest render distance with no spikes or lag as long as the minimap is closed. (i7 4790, R9 390, 32gb system ram).
Chat log about Eco game
This is a chat log between my brother and me. It lasts for about a 5-6 day period and the discussions range from cost, initial buy, to game mechanics and overall feelings about the game. I know its long to read (we go back and forth in chat often and our chat is verbose) but I think this is useful for everyone from current players and new players and even for the devs. I hope you get something useful out of this chat log...
I'll put the TL:DR right up front! If you don't make it to the bottom of this chat log then at least takeaway this: we had concerns about the game and the price, but in the end we are pretty happy playing it and it was a decent buy.
So now I'll leave it to the chat log:
I have bolded important sections of this log
<Chat Log: Start>
Gahx: do u want to try that eco game?
Gahx: not sure if im gonna like it but i want to at least try
Fizzgig: its super grindy
Fizzgig: im not sure if i will like it
Fizzgig: but its also 40$ and im not sure if i can swing that for a bit
Fizzgig: but its made for mp
Fizzgig: itll be really tough with 2 or 3 ppl
Fizzgig: but its got some stuff right like limited carry capacity
Fizzgig: games sorta dont make sence that you can carry so much
Fizzgig: but this game is like one shovel full at a time of dirt or rubble or whatever and i think thats maybe too crazy
Fizzgig: atleast there should be a wheel barrow or something cuz if its trying to be realistic then we would atleast shovel things into a wheel barrow duh...not take one shovel
full at a time
Fizzgig: there is skills that increase capacity i think and there is skills for effeciency that reduce build requirements...but man super grindy idk
Fizzgig: ok so a few things, i found out eco does have carts or wheel barrows so its not as stupid as i thought xD
Fizzgig: also i can actually afford it this month
Fizzgig: so idk if you wanna try it
Gahx: i didnt really want to buy eco i dont know if im gonna like it
Fizzgig: i saw a stream of it where ppl are farther along then "first day" and you can build some amazing stuff in it
Fizzgig: it is super grindy but it might be worth it
Fizzgig: i was really irritated seeing ppl carry shovels full of rubble one by one... but i found out there is a cart later you can load up
Fizzgig: also i dont think theres pvp in it. its supposed to be about community
Fizzgig: somebody needs this, they can give you this...the skills are hard to learn all by yourself so you have to work together
Gahx: i know the concept is cool
Gahx: i like the idea of leveling up different skills which help out the community
Gahx: i wonder if you have to restart if you go to another server
Fizzgig: each server is its own so yeah i think you have to restart
Gahx: they really ought to release a demo
Gahx: i guess i do want to play eco xD
Gahx: the thing that i really enjoyed about FFXIV and RO and even ToS and Black Desert was the job system
Gahx: i like that everyone has a job and it effects the overall community
Fizzgig: i just hope, if i spend that much money that i really will enjoy it
Fizzgig: i dont like grindy things usually and this is more grindy than most
Fizzgig: one thing about eco is that you gain skill points while offline
Fizzgig: as long as your nutrition is good
Gahx: lol you cant even get into eco yet
Gahx: you have to get a key or something
Fizzgig: yeah you can
Gahx: heres the other thing....eco is another one of those really REALLY LONG games
Gahx: iv got so many of those running at the same time
Fizzgig: what i dont like is if you play on a server what happens if they take it down
Fizzgig: uh hey you rememebr that thing i built?? um...gone
Fizzgig: id want a server myself i think but i cant support a community
Fizzgig: my server box is too weak
Gahx: i dont even know how to make tools yet lol
Gahx: im wandering around
Fizzgig: oh you got it?
Fizzgig: i guess ill get it too
Fizzgig: i think you get given a trade tool when you pick the skill
Gahx: when it says you gain skillpoints per day is that in game day or rl day
Fizzgig: i think rl day
Gahx: ewww hope you can upgrade it
Fizzgig: having balanced nutrition increases the gain modifier
Fizzgig: and even when you log out it keeps ticking and getting skill point
Gahx: whoa something must be wrong lol
Gahx: i ate a beet and now it says skill points gained per day 41
Fizzgig: whats your coordinates?
Fizzgig: im almost there
Fizzgig: it was a trek
Fizzgig: i guess i should put skills in axe pick shovel bow?
Fizzgig: but what about cooking?
Gahx: hold on dont put points into anything yet
Fizzgig: i put logging
Fizzgig: still have 3 points
Gahx: what you put points into determines what we can do
Fizzgig: well looging seems to be a must anyway
Gahx: we need to choose different skills
Gahx: i already have logging
Fizzgig: its basic skill we both need
Fizzgig: so i got it too but i still have 3 points to spend
Gahx: i dont really understand this game
Gahx: i need 5 points to go into carpentry
Gahx: but i only have 1 right now
Gahx: so i just have to sit around and wait?
Fizzgig: if you eat better food then the gain goes up
Gahx: i cant even farm
Fizzgig: thats why we all need basic skills
Gahx: i really want to get into mining and smithing
Gahx: everyones gonna need tools xD
Fizzgig: were not gonna be able to take seperate skills
Fizzgig: not the early skills
Fizzgig: but when we specialize in something then well do different ones
Fizzgig: but obiusely i want to build and mine and eat so we both are gonna have the same basic skills
Fizzgig: im also gonna take hunting
Fizzgig: so logging and hunting
Fizzgig: 2 points left
Fizzgig: i think that that game needs a traditional xp system so you can work and level up and then use the auto gain for times when you are logged out
Fizzgig: but it is weird that you are stuck and cant do anything...it does seem to cut you off from playing
Gahx: i want to see how many skill points i have now
Gahx: i hope this game doesnt turn into a mobile type of game
Fizzgig: some of the craftables do take time like up to 5 mins
Gahx: gonna be kind of mad to pay 40$ for a game that is a glorified mobile game
Fizzgig: its gonna endup getting crazy modded so you dont have to worry xD
Fizzgig: i think that after we eat cooked meals or food with lots of ingredients then well see skill modifyers into the 100s..perhaps 5-600 and stuff
Fizzgig: its hard to get there but basically we only ate a foriged item and it wasnt even cooked
Fizzgig: so its grindy in the begining until you get farther along or there is a real farming community that can provide better sorces of food
Gahx: i dont think you want to make people who are enthusiastic about playing not be able to play
Fizzgig: typical games have to fill up an xp bar doing monotinus tasks craft a million item that you dont need yey now youre "good" at this skill...yeah right there is no
benifit to the player by doing that
Fizzgig: so this it an attempt at removing that and just making it time based
Fizzgig: dont like the time? eat better food
Fizzgig: and you have to work hard to get there and spend alot of time to get it
Gahx: just went on eco again i had 9 points
Gahx: immediately spent them and logged off
Gahx: thats kind of dumb
Fizzgig: youre not thinking about it right
Fizzgig: watch pauls vid he made today its called eco gangz
Fizzgig: the 4 of them played thay all had 0 points and they kept playing and goofing around hunting and building and everything
Fizzgig: your house is a box
Fizzgig: you could be on there chopping and building while your skills grow and then you wouldnt notice
Fizzgig: you would probobly also eat more and get skills faster than this
Gahx: i can only build a box
Gahx: i cant even make stairs
Fizzgig: so you leave the spot where the stairs go until you can make them and work on a different section
Fizzgig: we could build a huge town
Fizzgig: and forget everything about the skills while we work
Fizzgig: but eating will constantly get better skill gain
Fizzgig: its not as bad a spend and log out...but i do agree its weird
Fizzgig: i was iffy on this game and this was one of the iffy things
Fizzgig: but watch pauls mp vid ... youll see what i mean
Fizzgig: im not giving up on it yet, eating one raw beet and then complaining about skill gain doesnt seem right to me
Fizzgig: theres so much food that you could eat and make it better, we just dont have access to it yet
Gahx: thats not the problem
Gahx: the problem is the game stops you from playing early on for no reason
Fizzgig: youre the one that is stoping playing, because you cant see some imaginary gain
Fizzgig: we could go in and play with what we have while waiting for better skills
Fizzgig: its slow..and its slow by design
Fizzgig: it is weird to adapt to this model but its not a completely wrong model
Fizzgig: its suposed to take time but doesnt stop you from playing
Fizzgig: i dont think the idea is fully fleshed out it is an alpha and things might change or get reballanced all of that is true
Gahx: so i went on eco and that server we started on one guy gave me a book about mining so now i have mining skill and this other guy said i could take some food from his garden
Gahx: now im getting 50 points per day
Fizzgig: i logged in and i was completely starved and i cannot get food because i am so hungry
Fizzgig: we need to make a garden
Fizzgig: do you have any food left over?
Gahx: look in public storage
Gahx: i just put some in there
Gahx: we need some protein too
Gahx: theres some dead animals around if u can carve them
Fizzgig: i dont know if i can carve
Fizzgig: but we need to make a campfire we need 1 stone
Gahx: im mining come see if u can use your shovel on it
Fizzgig: so i need to get cooking skill
Gahx: do u have the laborer skill?
Fizzgig: yeah but i cant do anything
Fizzgig: too hungry to work
Gahx: kill some rabbits?
Fizzgig: the berrys only gave me 90 callories that i just spent trying to kill a turkey
Fizzgig: i cant shoot bow at 0 callories
Gahx: look in the campfire
Fizzgig: well where did you get those
Fizzgig: how do we get more?
Gahx: a guy said i could take them from his garden
Fizzgig: ok one thing i think we need is a research table
Fizzgig: it says lvl 2 crafting
Fizzgig: with that i think we can make a cooking scroll
Fizzgig: then i can learn to cook turkey
Gahx: i dont see research table unlocked by any skill
Fizzgig: its on the crafting bench but says requires crafting 2
Fizzgig: 20 logs 5 stone
Fizzgig: can you get crafting 2?
Fizzgig: then ill eat the berriwees so i can shovel the stone
Gahx: how much points is it? i have 0 right now
Fizzgig: its probly 3 pts
Fizzgig: first lvl is 1 pt then 2 lvl is 3
Gahx: ill get it when i get some points
Fizzgig: i cant do cooking until the cooking scroll is made
Fizzgig: so idunno
Fizzgig: we probly didnt plan our points out right
Gahx: i told u that yesterday lol
Fizzgig: i mean i still think everybody should take basic skills
Fizzgig: we dont all have to become proficient but we should be able to do basic things
Fizzgig: i just dont want to eat all your berries if im not gonna be useful
Gahx: eat the berries and get 50 points per day
Fizzgig: ok i got it up to 34 pts
Gahx: did u leave the game?
Fizzgig: i hunted turkey
Fizzgig: it says harvest it but i dont know how
Gahx: right click or E probably
Fizzgig: e did it
Fizzgig: ill try to get more turkey
Gahx: oh i should be looking for coal so we can actually use the campfire
Fizzgig: logs works too but coal lasts longer
Gahx: oh yea im cooking your turkey
Gahx: ohhh i have campfire cooking
Gahx: well my stomache is full xD
Gahx: oh yea keep bringing back meat xD
Gahx: 100 points per day
Fizzgig: they are hard to shoot
Fizzgig: but ill try to get another one
Fizzgig: i had to make more arrows
Fizzgig: hunting at night is useful
Fizzgig: they are sleeping i guess they dont run away from you
Fizzgig: ok now we got a feast
Fizzgig: 4 rabits 1 turky 5 charred beets
Gahx: worst part is meat gives 600 calories
Gahx: im too full to eat meat
Fizzgig: then you need to work to spend the callories
Gahx: wow i had 12 points when i logged in
Gahx: dunno what to spend them on
Fizzgig: you should prbly just store them up until you need to do something with it
Fizzgig: you should make carts
Gahx: im trying to figure out how
Fizzgig: or get the skills needed to make them
Fizzgig: also higher lvl skills are gonna start costing quite alot
Fizzgig: lvl 3 in something takes 9 i could see it costing 30+ for lvl 4 or something
Fizzgig: dont even want to think about what it takes at lvl 10
Fizzgig: we also need coal for fuel i want to stop burning the wood
Fizzgig: it seems like stone is the most abundant resource so that should bue our building material as soon as we can
<Chat Log: End>