8.0 patch - we thought u were having TOO much fun



  • In the current 8.0 patch i feel like we are all being completly unable to progress, pretty much all of the crafting/mining/logging i do i see that XP up arrows with a big red X.
    for me this feels like, Okej! ur doing stuff but not what WE want u to do so ur not getting xp.
    After seeing this for hours its just draining the desire to play the game, i fear my clan wont be hosting 2 servers for much longer. the joy of the game has ben slaughtered.
    WE WANT TO PROGRESS!

    Me and my clan have decided to discard this game for now, maybe we come back when theres a way for us to actually accomplish things and progress but as things stand now there just isnt possible to spend 20 effective hours mining stone to get a new star



    • You still get XP constantly (like skillpoints before)
    • now you are able to level your specializations without skillpoints just by doing stuff (your were not able before)


  • We had the same problem. Especially myself. Aparently, you only get XP for activities, that belong to your chosen specialty. So If you cut a tree, you see that yellow arrow with a red X above it, unless you chose "Logging" as a specialty.
    I chose cooking...but I dont get any XP when cooking something in a campfire or taking cooked food out of the campfire. I don't know why yet.

    But we solved it, by adjusting the servers Collaboration level. Now everyone get's XP-Amounts, so everyone get's a chance to specialize in everything.



  • Well, you can spezialize everything if you're patient enough in vanilla though.
    I think both of you mix the XP.

    There are two kind of XP:

    • global XP for your char to get stars to specialize
    • profession / speciality XP to increase your skill in that specific speciality

    SO: You dont get global xp from doing stuff. You just get it by eating good and pimp your home.
    The other way around: You dont miss "global" XP for your star-collection if you do stuff you are not specialized in. You only miss that specific profession- / specialize-XP



  • Update 8.0 - as of the changes - requires more RAM than the versions before, probably your host needs to adapt to this.



  • I absolutely understand what OP means. Our group isn't as big as the ECO-Devs seem to wish for.

    We are 7 people on our server. We played the earlier Versions of the game for weeks at a time. But after playing 8.0 for only 2 days, we are bored.

    In earlier Versions, you gathered or crafted something, and got XP for that. Those XP could be allocated in new skills as I wanted. Now, however, I have to wait for DAYS (not ingame days; REAL days) to receive a single new Star. We have now lowered the collaboration-factor for the server, so at least we get a star per day or so...

    The problem lies with the leveling of the professions. Cutting down trees will only benefint that one skill. And once that skill is maxed out you don't get anything anymore.
    I can't do anything to further my character other than waiting long enough for another Star. And then I max out that profession in an hour or two, before I log out and wait for the next star... It's actually tiresome.

    We would like to start digging a cave to store Tailings, but we don't have any metal pickaxes yet, because noone could affort to learn masonary, which is needed to research smelting.

    EDIT: Serious question. How is this supposed to work in a single player world? On the Server, I get my star once a day when I log in. But only, because the server runs while I'm asleep or at work. In a single player world, my character only get's XP as long as I'm actually in game. Or did they change that?



  • @SLG-Dennis You should probably tell people this ahead of time or better idea have your own servers like a real company instead of relying on others to host servers



  • @Exzentrik Do you realize, that you get an iron pickaxe immediately when skilling mining?



  • @Exzentrik
    It seems you had activated "Skill Points on Crafting" then, which was disabled by default. We pretty much implemented this option into the new skill system.
    The game was never intended to have such a feature, it was implemented for singleplayer. What we did now is giving incentive to do things. I get what you mean, but leveling for example cooking while chopping wood seems a bit unrealistic to me. Feel free to open a suggestion on our github though, as we will definately refine the skillsystem further over the next patches.

    On Singleplayer - as on multiplayer - you can adjust the gain of new professions as well as the gain of experience in the config files. Everything is configurable, just as before. We also have implemented the sleep feature a while back that allows you to skip time. We're working really hard to improve experience for singleplayer, it just needs time and feedback. But yes, this game was developed with collaboration on multiplayer servers in mind, that is totally true.

    @larz
    We do have two official servers, we're going to expand that in the future, we just recently started hosting some on players request.



  • @Drachma I do realize, that I get an iron pickaxe by specializing in mining. But I can't repair it without iron-ingots, for which I need smelting.

    @SLG-Dennis Thanks for the tip! I completely forgot about the Skillpoints on Crafting!
    Oh. I just looked for it and realize, when you say "implemented it in the new Skill system", you meant, that this option is no longer available?

    You wrote "What we did now is giving incentive to do things.". How exactly did you do that? I mean, every time I do things in the game, I see a yellow Arrow with a red X above it, actually DISCOURAGING me from doing it. Because it tells me, that I'm not getting anything out of it. I don't get it. Is this game now meant to be played for 10 Minutes per day on a MP-Server? Because we don't have anything to do, except to wait for the new Star...I wasn't given any incentive to do anything.


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