Skill point gain research - updated 21/02/2017



  • @Xorilliz

    Yeah that's also my plan, just looking at the stats. Think elk wellington just doesn't do it for now.

    Or maybe you can use it as a cheaper alternative since it's only prep. meat and flour, in terms of commercialisation. Just like i'm cooking pie and taco for everyone (cheaper) and probably Bear grillz meat + wild mix for a specific circle of players who can afford it. Taco is like 1 - 1 per meat you get, pie is like double the berries you need. Then recipes like grillz meat and wild mix are probably the same as pie bcs berries are such a burden to gather.

    You kind of need afk food (the good stuff) and labor food (placeholder food with lots of cal and easy to prep) - especially if you still want good SP/day while doing labor, it'll be sort of expensive if you just eat a lot of grillz meat and wild mix ya' know, especially if you're a commercial cook like me, trying to share the successes of your cooking with the server.



  • updated tier 0



  • updated tier 1



  • Tier 4 vegie, baking: Huckleberry Pie (8) + Tier 4 meat, culinary: bear S U P R E M E (7): 365,8 SP/day. Multiplier is 1.8x. Pretty steady so far so i'm guessing this is the max SP, just one elk taco in my stomach so it might go up even more - bit easier to make then bear + vegie mix combo.



  • You can reach over 400 SP with wild mix and bear supreme, check results above



  • @Foolish_Crok Yeah IK, but this recipe is probably way cheaper then that recipe to put out in an active community on a short term - and the SP value isn't even that bad when you take the ingredients in consideration. That's what i'm going for - a possibility to commercialise a certain combination without too much hassle for the cook, yet an outstanding SP as 'fastfood'.

    You kind of need to be able to please everyone. Not everyone can gather +500 berries a day just to order 10 surpeme meat (that's already with lvl 3 reductions) - which isn't even including extract and vegie. Especially when active gameplay gets involved which means - eat, eat, eat to maintain your calories and eventually your SP / day. Nowadays the communities aren't that big but i'm pretty sure once big communities are coming up - you can forget about the supreme, vegie and extract combo in terms of spreading it on the entire server. :)



  • There is nothing above Bear SUPREME :(
    Me as a Chef, I have nothing to do, unless I go spend points in another class like Engineering.



  • I'll be working on the continuation of cooking right after all the farming stuff gets squared away. You guys certainly compiled a lot of information here.



  • @craig.jong said:

    I'll be working on the continuation of cooking right after all the farming stuff gets squared away. You guys certainly compiled a lot of information here.

    There is a lot more...



  • Accidental research pointed out that to get to 140+ SP in first hours of gameplay You may require less than 10 skill points total (i did that with 4 skill points spent (community run), could less/could more)

    1x Charred Meat + 3x Charred Camas Bulb +2x Huckleberries (plain gain: 140,4 SP, x1,8)
    3x Charred Meat + 9x Charred Camas Bulb +5x Huckleberries (plain gain: 143,0 SP, x1,9)



  • So, I've been using:
    ~1x Camas Bread (150/50/60/20)
    1x Sausage (10/90/80/10)
    2x Huckleberry Extract (0/0/0/150)

    The Camas Bread is rounded, because the more you have on your stomach the less Camas Bread you'll need.
    This is also the order I eat it in.
    I currnetly have 7 Camas Bread, 9 Sausage and 18 Huckleberry Extract in my stomach.

    Nutrient Values:
    Carbs: 51.8
    Proteins: 52.7
    Fat: 51.8
    Vitamins: 51.4
    Multiplier: 2.0x

    Skillpoints per day:
    409.2

    It's currently still growing in small numbers, but I guess it will cap at around 412 per day.



  • Thanks for the formula, made an excel sheet using it, its working perfectly and everyone may use it :)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jTWbC5e95CLIQZ2AutzVb0Mf7Oit4VnRakFIE2fDAAY/edit#gid=0

    At my current tier: 18 Huckleberry Extract + 13 Sausage + 10 Wild Mix = (plain gain: 403 SP, x1,9)



  • Found an even better combination:

    1x Camas Bread (150/50/60/20)
    1x Bear Supreme (50/100/90/10)
    3-4x Huckleberry Extract (0/0/0/150)

    Nutrition max.jpg



  • @gnollmar said:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jTWbC5e95CLIQZ2AutzVb0Mf7Oit4VnRakFIE2fDAAY/edit#gid=0

    Hi. Job well done, I am addin this to the research - credit belong to You.
    (edit 1: im not sure everything works correctly - i have to check again)

    @Phaete said:

    Found an even better combination:

    1x Camas Bread (150/50/60/20)
    1x Bear Supreme (50/100/90/10)
    3-4x Huckleberry Extract (0/0/0/150)

    Nutrition max.jpg

    I was thinking about Camas Bread... You made it, a round of applause for You.



  • //update:

    After the 6th Camas Bread & Bear Supreme the fat gets out of balance. I don't know why though as Camas Bread got 10 fat more than protein and bear supreme got 10 more protein than fat, so it should even out somehow.

    However. It's still a high value for daily skill points.



  • You know, thanks to you, i found something even better:

    6 Bear Supreme, 5 Camas Bread, 21 Huckleberry Extract = 446 :D

    @Foolish_Crok said:

    @gnollmar said:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jTWbC5e95CLIQZ2AutzVb0Mf7Oit4VnRakFIE2fDAAY/edit#gid=0

    Hi. Job well done, I am addin this to the research - credit belong to You.
    (edit 1: im not sure everything works correctly - i have to check again)

    @Phaete said:

    Found an even better combination:

    1x Camas Bread (150/50/60/20)
    1x Bear Supreme (50/100/90/10)
    3-4x Huckleberry Extract (0/0/0/150)

    Nutrition max.jpg

    I was thinking about Camas Bread... You made it, a round of applause for You.



  • That's my new daily goal now :D
    446 holy ****.

    Thanks for that :)



  • Updated:

    Added guide, spreadsheet, more results,
    All results at the end
    Added requirements



  • @Phaete Theres quite an easy reason to that: Bear supreme has 10% more calories than Camas Bread ;) Also, balance is 2.0 so even with the difference in fat you cant get a higher balance modifier. Theoretically you can get to 450, or close to it but well, that would mean 100, maybe 1000 Bear supreme eithin 24 hours ... im at 26 right now, its a LOT :p



  • Made the Spreadsheet for 5.5

    Notice how basically everything in 5.4 is bad in 5.5, we should get ready early, or face the consequences!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13mU_oQKEk93AB1SqMa6IOFzw_nLd2I4EmaWyNdKdn_s/edit?usp=sharing


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